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Lonesamurai · Aug 16, 2009, 03:54 PM // 15:54

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Originally Posted by Borat_Best_Player

Wait, let me get this straight, do we, the community, have to DESERVE the rights to recieve information about a sequel announced to a game we ALL bought 3 years ago (most of us anyways), and played during that time?

I thought that was called good MARKETING instead. Alot of people already left GW for what it is (A dead grind game, I'm sorry, it is, get over it), and due to the lack of information of GW2, which at this time can STILL be classified as vaporware (WHOOPS I SAID IT) won't even bother comming back for GW2.

It's only in Anet's benefit to say:

"This is what we're doing right now [Insert shit]"

Bottom line still is that Anet announced GW2 WAY TO EARLY, and ever since then have pretty much (For what, 1-1.5 years now?) given no information whatsoever.

What makes U believe we NEED TO DESERVE this information? By buying Guild Wars one, do we not already show interest in both Anet and the concept of Guild Wars?

If anything, it only seems fair that on Anet's part, they start giving us more information on WHAT THE GAME WILL BE LIKE. Alot of people have the hunch it will be a WoW-copy, albeit with the original GW concept, whereas others believe it will blow the MMO scene away. (Like GW did)

Patience is a virtue, but with 1.5 years of waiting under our belts, aswell as nearly NO content releases in Guild Wars, I do think more and more people are leaving the scene every day/week with the mindset of: "Fcuk it, I'm not gonna wait any longer for a game which I might or might not like, I'll just go play Aion (Insert other game if you want) instead."
And then by the time GW2 comes out, those people will already have been rooted into the other games, they won't bother buying GW2.

Again, not saying they will loose ALL their customers, just saying that it's doing them no good giving us the silence treatment...

We're not talking about GW2 info here, we're talking about GW1 update info

but again, i love how some of you think ANetwill lose players..

Yoom Omer · Aug 16, 2009, 04:00 PM // 16:00

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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

no he doesn't

there is actually no reason ANet should update gW1, they will, but theres no reason why they should and certainly no reason any of us deserve it

Perhaps. Then they shouldn't announce updates, and I won't complain that they won't tell us anything about the updates that don't exist. Simple.

BUT since they announced they're going to update the game every 4 months, it would be very nice to know whether they ARE or AREN'T going to give us this update.

I don't have to deserve anything. I bought this game because it was fun, and it still is fun sometimes. CR has nothing to do with the game itself. Bad CR can make ppl leave, and a bad game can cause the same. There's no doubt Anet is handling this situation VERY VERY BAD. This makes ppl leave the game, or be unsatisfied with Anet, which is bad for business. I want you to imagine a situation. You're given the ability to make a load of people satisfied, with little to no drawback. What will you do?

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Nodakim · Aug 16, 2009, 04:02 PM // 16:02

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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

no he doesn't

there is actually no reason ANet should update gW1, they will, but theres no reason why they should and certainly no reason any of us deserve it

Dont you think advertising a game with the line "WITHOUT ANY SUBSCRIPTIONS" or "BIG CONTENT UPDATES EVERY 6 months" and then changing your mind and not making any content updates because there are no subscriptions is a bitch move?
Because yea,if GW had subs in no way ever would they stop giving content updates to it because of GW2.
So basicly this is telling me they arent a company they said they are.
All the "we care about our fanbase and players" was bullshit,they only care about money...
Of course this isnt directed to Anet,more like at NCSoft(because they actualy decide about stuff like this)

Lonesamurai · Aug 16, 2009, 04:08 PM // 16:08

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Originally Posted by Yoom Omer

Perhaps. Then they shouldn't announce updates, and I won't complain that they won't tell us anything about the updates that don't exist. Simple.

BUT since they announced they're going to update the game every 4 months, it would be very nice to know whether they ARE or AREN'T going to give us this update.

I don't have to deserve anything. I bought this game because it was fun, and it still is fun sometimes. CR has nothing to do with the game itself.

Now wait a minute, they said MAYBE 3/4 months between updates and they also stated they wouldn't always be as big as the April update anyway (as that took the best part of 6 months to build) and your also right, CM's have nothing to o with the game, but they also can't tell you anything about the game or any upcoming updates if they have no info to give you, however knowing Linsey and the Live team, as soon as they have details they will plaster them all over Facebook, Twitter and the GW main page for all to see

However, if theres no info, take it just as that, there is no info

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Originally Posted by Nodakim

Dont you think advertising a game with the line "WITHOUT ANY SUBSCRIPTIONS" or "BIG CONTENT UPDATES EVERY 6 months" and then changing your mind and not making any content updates because there are no subscriptions is a bitch move?
Because yea,if GW had subs in no way ever would they stop giving content updates to it because of GW2.
So basicly this is telling me they arent a company they said they are.
All the "we care about our fanbase and players" was bullshit,they only care about money...
Of course this isnt directed to Anet,more like at NCSoft(because they actualy decide about stuff like this)

Come on Nodakim, you where there for the interviews I did with Martin, Regina and Linsey at the 4th b'day event, you HEARD what was said

Not only that, but they have stated in MANY interviews why they changed pace and I'm not repeating them when you heard it yourself...

Yoom Omer · Aug 16, 2009, 04:11 PM // 16:11

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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

Now wait a minute, they said MAYBE 3/4 months between updates and they also stated they wouldn't always be as big as the April update anyway (as that took the best part of 6 months to build) and your also right, CM's have nothing to o with the game, but they also can't tell you anything about the game or any upcoming updates if they have no info to give you, however knowing Linsey and the Live team, as soon as they have details they will plaster them all over Facebook, Twitter and the GW main page for all to see

However, if theres no info, take it just as that, there is no info

You see, the bold part is where Anet fails. If there's no info, such as in no new update, they can say that there's no update. It won't satisfy the playerbase but holding to this fact for several months will only make things worse...

Lonesamurai · Aug 16, 2009, 04:12 PM // 16:12

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Originally Posted by Yoom Omer

You see, the bold part is where Anet fails. If there's no info, such as in no new update, they can say that there's no update. It won't satisfy the playerbase but holding to this fact for several months will only make things worse...

sorry I'm not seeing your point

how can there be info when theres nothing to have info about?

Yoom Omer · Aug 16, 2009, 04:17 PM // 16:17

not info, but facts. If there's no info, regina could stumble here weeks ago and tell us that there's no update clean & simple. They fail to see that holding us for so long won't do any good to them.

Lonesamurai · Aug 16, 2009, 04:20 PM // 16:20

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Originally Posted by Yoom Omer

not info, but facts. If there's no info, regina could stumble here weeks ago and tell us that there's no update clean & simple. They fail to see that holding us for so long won't do any good to them.

and you missed the point of Guild Wars

Initially it was never meant to be a play all the time game unless you were massively into PvP... so do what ANet where happy for you to do4 years ago, enjoy the game, then play something else and come back when you want

Nodakim · Aug 16, 2009, 04:30 PM // 16:30

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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

Now wait a minute, they said MAYBE 3/4 months between updates and they also stated they wouldn't always be as big as the April update anyway (as that took the best part of 6 months to build) and your also right, CM's have nothing to o with the game, but they also can't tell you anything about the game or any upcoming updates if they have no info to give you, however knowing Linsey and the Live team, as soon as they have details they will plaster them all over Facebook, Twitter and the GW main page for all to see

However, if theres no info, take it just as that, there is no info

Come on Nodakim, you where there for the interviews I did with Martin, Regina and Linsey at the 4th b'day event, you HEARD what was said

Not only that, but they have stated in MANY interviews why they changed pace and I'm not repeating them when you heard it yourself...

I am just saying NCSoft should have give them more support on updating GW1 till GW2 came.
And I dont like they push GW down because of Aion.
Its not okay.

Yoom Omer · Aug 16, 2009, 04:34 PM // 16:34

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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

and you missed the point of Guild Wars

Initially it was never meant to be a play all the time game unless you were massively into PvP... so do what ANet where happy for you to do4 years ago, enjoy the game, then play something else and come back when you want

I don't see where you took that from... I said we're waiting for updates about the updates, and you answered that I don't understand what GW is about.

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Eliz Genevieve · Aug 16, 2009, 05:44 PM // 17:44

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Originally Posted by Selket

Avicara Assassin*

Avicara are Tengu. And Avicara aren't the only Tengu clan in Factions, there are the Sensali too.

Uh, nipticks, don't bother.

Konig Des Todes · Aug 16, 2009, 05:50 PM // 17:50

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Originally Posted by Eliz Genevieve

Avicara are Tengu. And Avicara aren't the only Tengu clan in Factions, there are the Sensali too.

Uh, nipticks, don't bother.

The Avicara are in the Southern Shiverpeaks, not Factions. The two factions Tengu Clans are the Sensali and Angchu.

Selket just made that pointless "correction" because she has a character named Avicara Assassin. Only the Angchu and Sensali have assassins.

Nodakim · Aug 16, 2009, 05:56 PM // 17:56

Lore just steamloled over Selket.

Eliz Genevieve · Aug 16, 2009, 06:00 PM // 18:00

Oh sh**. My bad.

NeHoMaR · Aug 16, 2009, 08:32 PM // 20:32

They should increase the level cap to 100, yes, in GW1. And sell some double exp packs for 5$.

Now, seriously, I was (I am) waiting a major update for this month, we are at time of the promise they did.

Lishy · Aug 16, 2009, 09:57 PM // 21:57

My guess is that their silence means something big, but it won't be at this month. Maybe announced at PAX?

The last update in this quarter is the mox update. And Mox was in september, correct me if I'm wrong. But I'm sure it was in this quarter.

Eliz Genevieve · Aug 16, 2009, 10:31 PM // 22:31

It was in September last year, although I didn't get your point.

Ambitious · Aug 16, 2009, 10:57 PM // 22:57

I think if there was going to be a "big" update this month, we would have heard about it by now.

I expect something for September, but not so much this month.

Aljasha · Aug 17, 2009, 11:11 AM // 11:11

why do people think these content updates will rejuvenate the game and the overall experience and make it feel like playing it for the first time? these updates aren't meant to be free expansions or addons, just oil for old gears. some new stuff may be added, and many of these things are given later because the community wants it.

this is a service. a service to the fans because anet wants to polish the game even after its long history, because they love their game. don't hold your breath. if you are fed up with the game, no upcoming update will give you more than two hours of satisfaction. play the game for what it is and not for what you'd like it to be.

shoyon456 · Aug 17, 2009, 02:11 PM // 14:11

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Originally Posted by Aljasha

this is a service. a service to the fans because anet wants to polish the game even after its long history, because they love their game. don't hold your breath. if you are fed up with the game, no upcoming update will give you more than two hours of satisfaction. play the game for what it is and not for what you'd like it to be.

If four years is a long history for a game, with I'd say only 2 being "glory days" then you are very new to MMO's and their life expectancies.

As for the August update, Regina clarified that they would be every 3-4 months and not "quarterly" updates. The last big content update was the 4th anniv update on April 23rd. Four months after exactly is August 23rd and if there is no major content update by then, I will not be surprised in the least as it is simply another indication of the pattern of let-downs and failed promises (oh wait, that would mean they're official OK then, failed "goals").

Personally, I dont give a sh** about the content update, but I'm waiting on Anet to actually keep its promises and expectations to the community. We still don't know about this update which they were supposedly going to be "more open about the development process" about. Showing GW2 to the public won't magically erase their past history of failing to meet their own benchmarks.

In reality, it probably won't come until late September. And I blame Anet management for pissing away support for GW1.